Hey, it's Lacy again. I'm not even sure if you get this e-mail or anything, because some of the dates on what was posted on your site are from like '03, but I just came across it just a few days ago, and had to e-mail you. I finally looked through your whole site, and I love it! I really do. It's so hilarious because everything is so true! I can't tell you how much I hate that damn Smart and Final commercial. Every time that would come on, I honestly feel like throwing the remote through the t.v.! I feel good knowing that someone else out there hates the same things I do; I know it's not just me. Everyone tells me how much I complain about these stupid commercials, but I just can't keep my mouth shut about them. The annoying jingles. The stupid catch phrases. They have to stop! I just can't get over why people make commercials so annoying, and where the hell they get the ideas from. Have you seen the Skittles commercial where some guy is in a nest and is being fed Skittles by a bird? Why the f*ck can't he go the the freakin store and buy some instead of climbing a mountain?! Who the hell came up with that ad? It just makes me angry.
The other day, I was looking online where to complain about ads and commercials, and I couldn't find anything. I just can't tell you how sick I am of the car commercials. They just make me want to scream. I guess they don't want us, ( consumers ) to look deeper into these ads that are so dumbed down. I'm 17, but I can see through them. Like the Taco Bell ad with the Asian guy. I noticed the same thing. He didn't even say "I'm full!". And I hate the "Zoom Zoom" kid probably more than you ( lol ). And the Lamisil commercial; absolutely disgusting. I could never bear looking at the screen when it came on. These damn stupid commercials make me want to punch someone. How about the person who made the idea? haha
I also saw your hate mail. Those people are the stupid ones the commercials are made for. Who the hell can sit through these ads and say it doesn't bother them?! That they're funny? I guess you and I, Nate need to dumb down to their level and understand those idiots. ( Yeah right. ) I don't know how you can be so calm towards the hate mail, but you are awesome. I LOVE this site. It's one of the funniest I think I've ever been to. I cry laughing at some of the things you say because they're so true. You're like the male version of me! :) Too bad you don't live in Stockton ( ca ), because if you did, we could sit up and talk crap on commercials together. :)
Lacy,
Tuesday, August 31, 2004
text on site is invisible
Hi Nathan. Great site. I wanted to give you a heads-up on a technical problem. A bunch of the site's text (including your comments) is invisible because its pages force a white background on the browser but do not always set the text color to black. When the text color is left undefined, the user's operating system will draw the text in the system-default text color. That color might be white, which creates white text against your white background.
I posted a screen shot of the problem at http://AmbitiousProductions.com/probs/commercialprob.gif.
To demonstrate the problem, go into the Windows Control Panel's Display / Appearance settings and select the "high contrast black" color scheme. It's not the most attractive (it's for people with impaired vision), but it'll illustrate the error if you visit your site.
If your pages are going to override users' color preferences, they need to override them completely (foreground AND background). There's no way to ensure that the color you picked for the background isn't the same as the color the user picked for text.
This problem is easy to fix. The site's pages or styles need to be corrected so they always set the text color to black.
Regards,
Gavin Stokes
I posted a screen shot of the problem at http://AmbitiousProductions.com/probs/commercialprob.gif.
To demonstrate the problem, go into the Windows Control Panel's Display / Appearance settings and select the "high contrast black" color scheme. It's not the most attractive (it's for people with impaired vision), but it'll illustrate the error if you visit your site.
If your pages are going to override users' color preferences, they need to override them completely (foreground AND background). There's no way to ensure that the color you picked for the background isn't the same as the color the user picked for text.
This problem is easy to fix. The site's pages or styles need to be corrected so they always set the text color to black.
Regards,
Gavin Stokes
I agree with your dislikes
I really don't like the pizza bagel commercials. I remember when they used to have Hot Pockets commercials. The product tasted horrible. It makes you wonder if the American public has relised how bad already made fozen foods are. It's just gross.
Femenine hygine ones are just as bad. It's sterotypical to women in a way. Well for me it is. For example it shows that you can only use tampons if you're tall, slender and a perky popular jock. WTF? Seriously that's mostly all the girls they use. And from a friend who told me this. Girls should only wear tampons if they've been de-virignized already. Yes now we know...All I can say is rock on!n Your website gives a reason to us retarded commercial hating people to vent and speak our mind.
Hikaru
Femenine hygine ones are just as bad. It's sterotypical to women in a way. Well for me it is. For example it shows that you can only use tampons if you're tall, slender and a perky popular jock. WTF? Seriously that's mostly all the girls they use. And from a friend who told me this. Girls should only wear tampons if they've been de-virignized already. Yes now we know...All I can say is rock on!n Your website gives a reason to us retarded commercial hating people to vent and speak our mind.
Hikaru
Sunday, August 29, 2004
What is Going on with KFC's new ad camp?
Have you seen the absolutely ridiculous new commercials from KFC...With the T-shirts emblazoned with slogans like..."Ain't afraid to be chicken!" WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY DOING? or "Right wing, left wing, tastes the same to me!" As I am writing from my desk, I am cracking up at the inanity of it all. Chicken Capital USA?...I am actually speechless. Apparently there is a tour also coming to a "town near you!", with a HUGE BUCKET OF CHICKEN...I can't even believe it...I really can't. Chicken Capital USA?...What the f....
Elise Brita
Elise Brita
Friday, August 27, 2004
Alice Cooper Staples Ad
Actually, I think this ad is a real hoot!! I do have a problem with him correcting the little girl about the song's lyrics...the song actually says both "school's out for summer", AND "school's out forever"! It also says "school's been blown to pieces". Other than that, I love this ad!
Sheryl
Sheryl
Wasted days and wasted nights
Nathan,
You really need to get a life. The amount of time you've wasted on your website is truly amazing. Take for example the following quote:
QUOTE
Chocolate Bar Ads
My current loathesome commercial is still any ad for a chocolate bar where they show this "naked" candy bar penis plunging into a wet chocolate vagina.
It's so disturbing I can't even tell you.
END QUOTE
Really now, you either have taken way too many psychotropic drugs in your day or your imagination is way beyond any normal human being. Perhaps a day job might suit you? Something that requires the full use of your faculties. Then again if you can "read" into an ad what you did for this one perhaps you should go work for the ad business and make commercials that you don't hate. As the old saying goes "They that can't - teach" but in your case I guess it should be "Those that can't - complain."
Matthew Arntzen
arntzen@post.com
You really need to get a life. The amount of time you've wasted on your website is truly amazing. Take for example the following quote:
QUOTE
Chocolate Bar Ads
My current loathesome commercial is still any ad for a chocolate bar where they show this "naked" candy bar penis plunging into a wet chocolate vagina.
It's so disturbing I can't even tell you.
END QUOTE
Really now, you either have taken way too many psychotropic drugs in your day or your imagination is way beyond any normal human being. Perhaps a day job might suit you? Something that requires the full use of your faculties. Then again if you can "read" into an ad what you did for this one perhaps you should go work for the ad business and make commercials that you don't hate. As the old saying goes "They that can't - teach" but in your case I guess it should be "Those that can't - complain."
Matthew Arntzen
arntzen@post.com
Hello...
I just came across this site and I have to say; this is one of the best sites I've come across in a while. It's hilarious because it's so true. I was looking online for somewhere to complain about commercials, ( I'm 17 and really opinionated! ) because like you, most commercials piss me off! It's great to see that someone agrees with me for a change. When I talk about commercials, people always tell me "you complain to much!" I always come back with "hey... I'm just speaking the truth." I think you make a lot of good points, and you know what, I don't want to sound weird or anything, but you're the male version of me! ( lol.) Don't worry, I'm not another Melissa. TTYL. e-mail me if ya want.
~Lace~
~Lace~
Thursday, August 26, 2004
Nathan
I just want to say that I LOVE your site.
I can't say how much it pleases me to
know that there are other people in the
world who despise annoying ads as much as I do.
You should e-mail some of the CEOs of some
of the agencies that do these ads and see if you
can't get some of these jack asses fired.
Also you should alert some of the
advertisers and send them petitions
about how shitty there ads are. Believe me
they'll listen. They spend thousands of dollars
to run focus groups so they can find out
what people think of their god awfull ads.
I'm an art director for an agency that does
terrible ads too. So I know how it goes.
People need to speak out against bad advertising.
Advertisers DO respond to public opinion.
-Big Foot
I can't say how much it pleases me to
know that there are other people in the
world who despise annoying ads as much as I do.
You should e-mail some of the CEOs of some
of the agencies that do these ads and see if you
can't get some of these jack asses fired.
Also you should alert some of the
advertisers and send them petitions
about how shitty there ads are. Believe me
they'll listen. They spend thousands of dollars
to run focus groups so they can find out
what people think of their god awfull ads.
I'm an art director for an agency that does
terrible ads too. So I know how it goes.
People need to speak out against bad advertising.
Advertisers DO respond to public opinion.
-Big Foot
You rock!
Dear Nathan,
Thanks for making me laugh today. My boss read your Gatorade diatribe to me yesterday and pointed me to your site. He actually suggested I check it out. Not only did I laugh, I got paid to do so.
I used to work for one of the largest infomercial companies. (Don't shoot me!) The only thing more amazing than the commercials was the millions of people who tuned into them. And the egos of the actors and actresses who were in them defied description. I could tell you Cher, Kathie Lee Gifford and Richard Simmons stories for days.
Well back to work, or reading over the internet that is :)
Happy Hating!
Tamme
P.S. The letter from a highly motivated, dedicated, never going to quit kicking ass, red-blooded American was quite fierce. Does this mean they still sell dream catchers in Texas or on some army base somewhere? It kind of makes you want to move to Europe. My theory is whenever someone tells you what they are in an indignant fashion, BEWARE! I live in Utah and whenever someone tells me what an honest ethical great Mormon they are, I know to hide my purse and exit the scene before I end up broke and joining a direct sales company.
Thanks for making me laugh today. My boss read your Gatorade diatribe to me yesterday and pointed me to your site. He actually suggested I check it out. Not only did I laugh, I got paid to do so.
I used to work for one of the largest infomercial companies. (Don't shoot me!) The only thing more amazing than the commercials was the millions of people who tuned into them. And the egos of the actors and actresses who were in them defied description. I could tell you Cher, Kathie Lee Gifford and Richard Simmons stories for days.
Well back to work, or reading over the internet that is :)
Happy Hating!
Tamme
P.S. The letter from a highly motivated, dedicated, never going to quit kicking ass, red-blooded American was quite fierce. Does this mean they still sell dream catchers in Texas or on some army base somewhere? It kind of makes you want to move to Europe. My theory is whenever someone tells you what they are in an indignant fashion, BEWARE! I live in Utah and whenever someone tells me what an honest ethical great Mormon they are, I know to hide my purse and exit the scene before I end up broke and joining a direct sales company.
comments
Hi Nathan,
Just wanted to let you know that I love you website. I don't remember the last time I laughed that hard. Your comments about commercials/adds are hysterical, and totally true. I grew up in southern California and now I'm going to school in Miami Florida, and although hard to believe, I think Miami commercials are even worse then Los Angeles.
One in particular drives me nuts... its a commercial for "Checkers" a burger chain they don't have in CA (as far as I know) It shows a bunch of kids goofing off and eating burgers and the slogan is "You Gotta Eat". Wow! what genius figured that one out? Yes, I do have to consume food in order to live, that doesn't mean I have to eat your nasty crap!!!
Another one is for a furniture store... I think it's called City Furniture. They always show entire living room or dining room set outside with a beautifull setting behind it, which is particularly helpfull because I'm always shopping for a couch for my backyard.The spokeslady is also always sitting somewhere outside with a scene of a lake behind her. What the hell does that have to do with furniture?
Also, about the Gatorade thing... I have tried several of the new flavors with odd colors and names like Riptide Rush and found them disturbing. When I was in elementary school on career day my classmate's father who was a food flavoring chemist came in to speak to us. He said that those in his line of work had to be careful not to invent flavors that are unrecognizable to normal people because a product that a person could not identify with flavor-wise would be a huge flop. I guess Gatorade missed the memo. Well, that's all I have to say for now. Keep on with the fabulous add critiques.
-Lisa
Just wanted to let you know that I love you website. I don't remember the last time I laughed that hard. Your comments about commercials/adds are hysterical, and totally true. I grew up in southern California and now I'm going to school in Miami Florida, and although hard to believe, I think Miami commercials are even worse then Los Angeles.
One in particular drives me nuts... its a commercial for "Checkers" a burger chain they don't have in CA (as far as I know) It shows a bunch of kids goofing off and eating burgers and the slogan is "You Gotta Eat". Wow! what genius figured that one out? Yes, I do have to consume food in order to live, that doesn't mean I have to eat your nasty crap!!!
Another one is for a furniture store... I think it's called City Furniture. They always show entire living room or dining room set outside with a beautifull setting behind it, which is particularly helpfull because I'm always shopping for a couch for my backyard.The spokeslady
Also, about the Gatorade thing... I have tried several of the new flavors with odd colors and names like Riptide Rush and found them disturbing. When I was in elementary school on career day my classmate's father who was a food flavoring chemist came in to speak to us. He said that those in his line of work had to be careful not to invent flavors that are unrecognizable to normal people because a product that a person could not identify with flavor-wise would be a huge flop. I guess Gatorade missed the memo. Well, that's all I have to say for now. Keep on with the fabulous add critiques.
-Lisa
Wednesday, August 25, 2004
record scratch
Nathan,
Your website is inspired. I'm so glad I found it. It was
mentiioned in an article in the Salt Lake Tribune. Very entertaining.
The things that irritate you also irritate me.
Not having "tuned in" before, I don't know if the production
technique featuring a "record scratch" has been mentioned as an
irritation. As an indication of Whoa! Back Up! Hold On Here! the
sound effect of a record getting the hell scratched out of it is a
regular feature in numerous commercials. What are they thinking? Viewers
under the age of 35 or so most likely have never heard a record
scratch in any context other than Rap "music". A lot of kids have
never seen a vinyl LP, thinking music always came on CDs. It is a
complete anachronism making very little sense and to those of us
still possessing a cherished LP collection it makes us want to run
out screaming in the night. It would make as much sense and be no
more irritating to use the old tried and true fingernails-on-a-blackboard.
Regards,
Randy Kimball
Your website is inspired. I'm so glad I found it. It was
mentiioned in an article in the Salt Lake Tribune. Very entertaining.
The things that irritate you also irritate me.
Not having "tuned in" before, I don't know if the production
technique featuring a "record scratch" has been mentioned as an
irritation. As an indication of Whoa! Back Up! Hold On Here! the
sound effect of a record getting the hell scratched out of it is a
regular feature in numerous commercials. What are they thinking? Viewers
under the age of 35 or so most likely have never heard a record
scratch in any context other than Rap "music". A lot of kids have
never seen a vinyl LP, thinking music always came on CDs. It is a
complete anachronism making very little sense and to those of us
still possessing a cherished LP collection it makes us want to run
out screaming in the night. It would make as much sense and be no
more irritating to use the old tried and true fingernails-on-a-blackboard.
Regards,
Randy Kimball
Enzyte "Natural Male Enhancement"
My current pet peeve is the grinning geek "Bob" on the Enzyte "Natural Male Enhancement" commercial. If i saw a man grinning like that, I would assume he'd just escaped from the local loony bin. -- Linda J. Hall, Taylorsville, UT
Anonymous said...
This is the best site I've seen in a long time. I got the link, by the by, from a story in today's Salt Lake Tribune (not that I am anywhere near Salt Lake City).
I don't even watch television. I don't even own a television. I just get my thrills vicariously from my sister, a television fiend, and now, you. (I don't think TV is bad or anything; I just don't watch it.)
But awful commercials are everywhere. I listen to a news station (WTOP in Washington, DC) daily. I will never, never, never, never donate a car to Melwood, whoever they are. I am sick to death of their commercials where they read a heartwarming letter about some mentally ill relative, ending with "Thank you, Melwood." Then in the next segment, the announcer ALWAYS says "Letters like these mean the world to us." And then something to the effect of "But we really want you to donate money or tangible goods." So keep your crummy sentiments. Just send money.
They run those ads at least 20 times a day. I've started turning off the radio when these ads come on. And I donated my car to the Kidney Foundation.
Anyway, thanks for the yucks. I will be back.
This is the best site I've seen in a long time. I got the link, by the by, from a story in today's Salt Lake Tribune (not that I am anywhere near Salt Lake City).
I don't even watch television. I don't even own a television. I just get my thrills vicariously from my sister, a television fiend, and now, you. (I don't think TV is bad or anything; I just don't watch it.)
But awful commercials are everywhere. I listen to a news station (WTOP in Washington, DC) daily. I will never, never, never, never donate a car to Melwood, whoever they are. I am sick to death of their commercials where they read a heartwarming letter about some mentally ill relative, ending with "Thank you, Melwood." Then in the next segment, the announcer ALWAYS says "Letters like these mean the world to us." And then something to the effect of "But we really want you to donate money or tangible goods." So keep your crummy sentiments. Just send money.
They run those ads at least 20 times a day. I've started turning off the radio when these ads come on. And I donated my car to the Kidney Foundation.
Anyway, thanks for the yucks. I will be back.
Great site!
Hi Nate,
I saw an article in our Salt Lake Trib about your site, and thought.."Damn!!!
Somebody best me to it!"
Thanks for your site, so's we can enjoy your efforts to not only expose pure
crap, but the a-holes behind them. I think it's great to name the "creative"
team behind the garbage that someone saw fit to pay good money for.
Cheers!
Mike Parr
I saw an article in our Salt Lake Trib about your site, and thought.."Damn!!!
Somebody best me to it!"
Thanks for your site, so's we can enjoy your efforts to not only expose pure
crap, but the a-holes behind them. I think it's great to name the "creative"
team behind the garbage that someone saw fit to pay good money for.
Cheers!
Mike Parr
Tuesday, August 24, 2004
Great Rant!
Hey Nathan,
Absolutely loved your rant/letter to 60 minutes. Very well written. Too bad the stupid asswipes will ignore it. Also enjoyed the Post of the Week. God I hate when they portray every couple as being white trash or Dumb Daddy with the Supermom yuppie wife. Gag.
I'm tired of one of our local ones that is pushing Oshkosh for little ones. This stupid bitch going on about her 2 cutie pies, Isabel and "Hurricane" Henry. You hear Henry destroying the house in the background and her inane responses: "The vacuum cleaner isn't a toy sweetie, neither is kitty." Isn't he just soooo cute when he beats up on little sister and breaks the marble-topped table. Kee-rash. Puh-leeze. I'm glad Mooch is back. She was sorely missed.
denise :)
Absolutely loved your rant/letter to 60 minutes. Very well written. Too bad the stupid asswipes will ignore it. Also enjoyed the Post of the Week. God I hate when they portray every couple as being white trash or Dumb Daddy with the Supermom yuppie wife. Gag.
I'm tired of one of our local ones that is pushing Oshkosh for little ones. This stupid bitch going on about her 2 cutie pies, Isabel and "Hurricane" Henry. You hear Henry destroying the house in the background and her inane responses: "The vacuum cleaner isn't a toy sweetie, neither is kitty." Isn't he just soooo cute when he beats up on little sister and breaks the marble-topped table. Kee-rash. Puh-leeze. I'm glad Mooch is back. She was sorely missed.
denise :)
Wednesday, August 18, 2004
I love your site.
Hey Nathan,
I like your site. It really protrays alot of commercials that are hated on television. Yeah...Old Navy still makes crappy commercials, but have you heard the crappy music they play? Not to mention that it's played at full blast so you have to practically yell at the employees for help.
I've also noticed that our media is still on mostly single ethnicity. I'm a Japanese born American and find it kind of annoying that most commercials on the Mainland show only caucaucian (sp?), and the very small amount of blacks, asian and hispanic people on tv. My mom said because not many asians are into the media business. But common, if our world had a more mixed ethnical commercials I think we'd see eye to eye, or probably sprout more prejudice or whatever.
Another commercial I hate is the Fanta soda commercial. Seriously who the hell wants to buy a soda with a comeon that if you drink it these hot, ditzy annoying girls will suddenly popup and dance with you? Gods has our media productionists sunk this low??? Haha...but you relise now that they haven't shown that damned commercial for along time. Before it used to be nearly every commercial break but now it's hardly shown.
Jcpennys ads are dumb, mainly because the stores where I live have all closed up! I don't give a damn if our tv is runned by Mainland time, it's just plain annoying.
I know I ment to say how I loved your site, but it ended up being on the commercials I hate, but I have one more I promise.
Well it's not really a commercial but just a theme based one...When ever the have themes based on Hawaiian Luaus. GOD IT'S SICKENING!!!!!! As a American born and raised in Hawaii I find these themes so freaken prejudice. I think it was the movie called North that was played on the Disney Channel...just watch and you'll understand.
My reason is that some people still think we live in grass huts on a sanded beach with only the size of a shopping mall. Plus when people come here they think all there is to see is that we all have luaus every night, wear only hawaiian printed clothes etc. That's not it. Hawaii has become a multi-cultural island where the food has been mixed by the many people who have lived here. But the one thing that hilarious is the coconut bras. My mom teaches Hawaiiana for her fourth grade class and she says that the hawaiians didn't wear coconut bras because it was a thing they ate, and i'd think it's be uncomfortable too. And the final thing that urks me is how some people on the Mainland see us as not part of the American culture. It's true ask around and some people will deny us being part of America.
Thanks for your time. Sorry again for a vent based letter. ^_^;
lianne maeda
I like your site. It really protrays alot of commercials that are hated on television. Yeah...Old Navy still makes crappy commercials, but have you heard the crappy music they play? Not to mention that it's played at full blast so you have to practically yell at the employees for help.
I've also noticed that our media is still on mostly single ethnicity. I'm a Japanese born American and find it kind of annoying that most commercials on the Mainland show only caucaucian (sp?), and the very small amount of blacks, asian and hispanic people on tv. My mom said because not many asians are into the media business. But common, if our world had a more mixed ethnical commercials I think we'd see eye to eye, or probably sprout more prejudice or whatever.
Another commercial I hate is the Fanta soda commercial. Seriously who the hell wants to buy a soda with a comeon that if you drink it these hot, ditzy annoying girls will suddenly popup and dance with you? Gods has our media productionists sunk this low??? Haha...but you relise now that they haven't shown that damned commercial for along time. Before it used to be nearly every commercial break but now it's hardly shown.
Jcpennys ads are dumb, mainly because the stores where I live have all closed up! I don't give a damn if our tv is runned by Mainland time, it's just plain annoying.
I know I ment to say how I loved your site, but it ended up being on the commercials I hate, but I have one more I promise.
Well it's not really a commercial but just a theme based one...When ever the have themes based on Hawaiian Luaus. GOD IT'S SICKENING!!!!!! As a American born and raised in Hawaii I find these themes so freaken prejudice. I think it was the movie called North that was played on the Disney Channel...just watch and you'll understand.
My reason is that some people still think we live in grass huts on a sanded beach with only the size of a shopping mall. Plus when people come here they think all there is to see is that we all have luaus every night, wear only hawaiian printed clothes etc. That's not it. Hawaii has become a multi-cultural island where the food has been mixed by the many people who have lived here. But the one thing that hilarious is the coconut bras. My mom teaches Hawaiiana for her fourth grade class and she says that the hawaiians didn't wear coconut bras because it was a thing they ate, and i'd think it's be uncomfortable too. And the final thing that urks me is how some people on the Mainland see us as not part of the American culture. It's true ask around and some people will deny us being part of America.
Thanks for your time. Sorry again for a vent based letter. ^_^;
lianne maeda
Wednesday, August 11, 2004
Huggies Diapers
There are perverts out there who kill our chidren & molest & who knows what hell they go through before they die, because of the damm ads. like the one where the baby is runing the fuck around nude. Why THE FUCK DON't they put it on the web. So the fucking pedifiles can see it then go kill some more fucking kids. Assholes. And go to they can go to the bathroom & fucking beat their fucking chicken from watching these baby butts ads. These asses of kids make me sick. who fucking wants to see that. It makes me sick to see that fucking shit. so whats UP?????????????????? TO WHOOOOOM IT MAY CONCERN.OR SOMETHING.
-Donnie
-Donnie
Wednesday, August 04, 2004
Just wanted to remind you...
A visitor to your forum at http://www.voy.com/32053/ has contacted you.
Name: Serious User
Subject: Just wanted to remind you...
Message:
That you are an idiot with admin/moderator privelages. I bet your parents can't WAIT for you to move out you fucking dolt. I'm betting this moonlighting doesn't compare to the power you have at the drive thru window.
Just a weekly reminder that you're a loser.
Cheers!
- serioususer@msn.com
Name: Serious User
Subject: Just wanted to remind you...
Message:
That you are an idiot with admin/moderator privelages. I bet your parents can't WAIT for you to move out you fucking dolt. I'm betting this moonlighting doesn't compare to the power you have at the drive thru window.
Just a weekly reminder that you're a loser.
Cheers!
- serioususer@msn.com
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